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Vatican rejects transgenders in doc called 'Male & Female-He Created Them.' OK?

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New document issues by the Vatican calls it an 'educational crisis' in the field of sex ed, rejected the idea that anyone can change their gender. Your view?
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By Daria Christine Bronze Age mythology and logos vs scientific fact and logic; too bad the ignorant and superstitious outnumber the educated, especially here in Jesusland; as I contemplate the future I'm reminded of Hypatia of Alexandria; torn to pieces by a loving Christian mob for being a female professor of mathematics and philosophy.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris What mythology? Science proves this? I guess you are entitled to have the opinion it is mythology. And science doesn't show there are more than two genders.
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By Daria Christine On the contrary; science shows clearly that the simplistic notion of binary gender and sex is anything BUT accurate.

Harvard Medical School offers something to chew on here.

https://cmeregistration.hms.harvard.edu/events/sex-sexuality-and-gender-socio-cultural-changes-and-the-impact-on-clinical-care/speakers-8fc774d7ec814d0699a2f7d4f9aa829b.aspx?dvce=1

And if you're actually going to try to convince anybody with an IQ above that of a root vegetable that Christian mythology is factual, I'm just going to write you off as a moron and ignore you.

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By Kirby Liberty Harris LOL, that is a study, not hard science. Science does not show more than two genders.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris And, that is a cop out. There are top scientists, like Francis Collins, head of the Human Genome Project that believes Christianity to be true not myth. Science doesn't show Christianity to be myth either. Wow, you are so holier than thou.
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By Daria Christine On the contrary; I have no idea where you complete your studies; but Christianity is every bit as valid as the mythologies of Greece and Rome; that's to say, not at all.

Allegory and metaphor, parable and myth all together means precisely nothing.
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By Daria Christine I think I have a bit more information than you on the subject; this is the life I live; now you can believe whatever codswallop your preacher jams down your throat or up yer bum; educated people the world around are laughing at you people.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I don't have a preacher that ever talks about this stuff, so quit ASSuming. It makes an ASS out of U and, well not ME. My view on this has nothing to do with Christianity, but based on science.

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By Kirby Liberty Harris Well, it is your opinion that Christianity is a myth and you are entitled to your opinion.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Look, there is no hard science showing anymore than two genders. It is determined by your chromosomes. So believe what you want to satisfy your confirmation bias.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Educated people, believers and nonbelievers, are laughing at your pseudo science. While I respect your right to believe what you want and be who you feel you are and am against anyone treating you like dirt and never would, I respectfully disagree.
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By Daria Christine Harvard doesn't publish pseudo science; you're thinking of Tony Perkins and the FRC.

TRY to keep up; you're embarrassing yourself and it seems you're too stupid to know that

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/104/2/390/5104458?fbclid=IwAR37QKwOk-7B_3MpOf0Ug2PRujYJyiNOn_59_j0IQZYhsWQwPbxrW60qnoU
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I never said Harvard publishes pseudo science. And who is Tony Perkins?
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Again, this is a study, not hard proven science. The article says the conclusion was: Gender dysphoria MAY (NOT DOES) have an oligogenic component, with several genes involved in sex hormone–signaling contributing.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris You are the one embarrassing yourself, proving me right with your link. Again, your link says MAY not DOES. So, no proof. You have every right to believe what you want, but not a right to say something is Fact when it is not.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris And hey, I have nothing against transgender people. You have every right to be who you identify as being. I am all for it. You deserve all the respect any other human does. I wish you well. And IF proof is EVER found I will change my mind.