Topic: LGBT

VA judge backs transgender ex-student in bathroom dispute with school. Agree?

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In a case that once riveted the nation, a judge ruled in favor of transgender student, says school must update bathroom, gender policies. Agree?
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Results in this view: Yes 19% - Convince Me 14% - No 67%
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By Vincent D'Emidio Yo fellas, wake up...this is 2019, not 1959...stop with the Prejudice, it's ignorant.
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By William Dykeman do you really want your 7 year old daughter to share bathroom with some freak in a dress?
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By Vincent D'Emidio No, but that's not the issue. that "worry" is just "Red Herring", or a "Straw Man", I don't know which...but it is a lot of BULL, and you know it! Yo Bubba...so-called "christians" are the ENEMY, so you should give them absolutely NO comfort.
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By William Dykeman i worry abou the potential for predators to take advantage of this i realize most transgenders are peaceful people , but some rapist can pretend to be a tranny and prey on women dont you want to protect the women in your life mom , sis, the bar maid down at the local dive bar that gives great head?
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By Vincent D'Emidio Of course I do, but you know, and I know, that "protecting" females is NOT what motivates these TRYING-TO-BE "christians". They simply want power, money and control...and they must not be allowed to succeed. Period.
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By Mark Tracey Why do females need more protection then men, they are the same.....aren’t they?
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By Mark Tracey If there are predatory exceptions, prosecute them, otherwise let each state decide for itself how it wants to handle the issue.,
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By William Dykeman call me old fashioned
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By William Dykeman alright then, i guess we have to arm women going to the bathroom now
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By William Dykeman i agree but i'm telling you my motivations i worry about one of these freaks attcking my 12 year old neice
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By Vincent D'Emidio And you can call me a Seventies-kinda-guy! Nothing "old-fashioned" about the 1970s...the most progressive, LIBERATED era in American history! I still believe in "if it feels good, do it!".
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By Vincent D'Emidio "one of these freaks attcking my 12 year old neice"

Again, I agree, but you're letting bible-thumping ANIMALS get away with "Collective Punishment" of people they simply don't like.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris But your claim is false. There are many non Christians that have this concern about fake trans using this to be pervs or assault women. And most Christians actually have this fear, not money or power motivations. Stop your hate.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris All public (government) institutions should convert all the bathroom facilities to single occupancy facilities, eliminating this silly issue. Private business (even open to the public) should be able to make an policy they wish.
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By William Dykeman you are right about that for them its about control you got me there
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By William Dykeman the 80s had better music and way better drugs
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By William Dykeman i'm not talking about colective punishment i'm talking about one thing one thng protecting kids that my priority
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By William Dykeman nero fiddled while rome burned and this is exactly why rome fell
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By Vincent D'Emidio Again, a correction...Rome allowed so-called "christians" to impose their, ahem, "values" on the citizenry of the Empire, and so it became WEAK! Don't agree with me? Then why...I mean, WHY, was it so STRONG when the people were pagans? Because that's the natural order!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Wrong, Rome was weak because of their wars and foreign intervention spread the empire out to weak and corruption entered. Not Christianity, which was peaceful when it spread through the Empire.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Constantine, is believed , to have faked his conversion, because the spread of a common man movement taking over the citizens. He turned it into a political movement that wanted wealth and power.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Back, then real Christians, who refused to go along with corrupt non-Christian Rome and then fake Christian Rome, were persecuted and killed.
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By William Dykeman oh i agree i'd love to attend one of those orgies i am pagan but of the asatru variety hail odin
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By Vincent D'Emidio Oh, I agree. Constantine was NO kinda Christian...he was a politician, plain and simple. He had no "visions", he just made that junk up, like L. Ron Hubbard made up his "visions".
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By Vincent D'Emidio Imperial Rome, the REAL Rome, viewed these, ahem, "christians" (if you wanna call them that) as troublemakers and terrorists, so they did what they had to do to maintain order.
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By Vincent D'Emidio I agree with some of what you wrote, but the so-called "christians" were violent troublemakers who tried to impose their PHONY "morality" on the REAL Romans, who enjoyed controlling their own bodies.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris And, that ONLY changed once Constantine infiltrated them and made them the official state religion. That is when force started.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris No, the original Christians were not violent trouble makers and did force their ways on Romans in any way, not regarding their bodies or anything. They were a people of peace and voluntary adherence.
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By Vincent D'Emidio "They were a people of peace and voluntary adherence"

That is quite true. When I said that the early Christians were violent, I wasn't talking about those ones that were persecuted in the earlier part of the Empire. By the time of Constantine, much of the persecution against Christians had ended. In fact, both pagan and Christian Romans lived and worked side by side. Constantine, sensing a political "football", simply LUNGED at it. He made up that story about receiving a message from Jesus, saying "In my name conquer". "Conquer"? As in kill? I'm sorry, I cannot believe foolish stories like that!

After Constanntine began to consolidate power by siding with the...ah, you should the expression, "christians", he had to do their bidding. The Not-so-Early Christians had their share of Jerry Fallwell style, ah, "christians" in their ranks, just like they do now. So, once Constantine imposed "christianity" on the populace, THAT'S "when force started".
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By Kirby Liberty Harris There might have been an outlier or two that were for 'forcing' Christianity, but they were not the norm. Constantine basically started all that.
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By William Dykeman oh the hell they didnt, during the crusades they massacred jews and literally ate muslims, it is a vile creed
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By Kirby Liberty Harris No they didn't force conversion, as I said, until after Constantine started it. You proved my point. The Crusades were after Constantine.
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By William Dykeman you are crazy charlemagne gave my grmanic ancestors two choices convert of be beheaded you are either uber stupid or a complete liar, you really are crazy in denial Religious nature
Alluding to the Saxons, the contemporary poet of the Paderborn Epic praises terror as a means of conversion: "What the contrary mind and perverse soul refuse to do with persuasion, / Let them leap to accomplish when compelled by fear."[3]

One of Charlemagne's famed capitularies outlined part of the religious intent of his interactions with the Saxons. In 785, he issued the Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae which asserted, "If any one of the race of the Saxons hereafter concealed among them shall have wished to hide himself unbaptized, and shall have scorned to come to baptism and shall have wished to remain a pagan, let him be punished by death."[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_Wars#Religious_nature
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By Kirby Liberty Harris William, I think you are the one who is either stupid or a complete liar. You prove my point further. This is what happened AFTER Constantine, and what the 'church' became after and because of him.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris The per-Constantine church was a church of peace and no force, only voluntary conversion.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris All public (government) institutions should convert all the bathroom facilities to single occupancy facilities, eliminating this silly issue. Private business (even open to the public) should be able to make an policy they wish.
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By William Dykeman sick of letting a bunch of extremist freaks dictate life to the rest of us, if they have a weiner they use the mans if they have a vagine they use the girls
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I agree, but I am willing to have government spend the extra money and make all government bathrooms individual unisex bathrooms to shut them the hell up. Let private businesses decide for themselves.
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By William Dykeman whats the point of having a law if it doesnt apply to private sector? thats absurd
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Who said have a law? And there are laws that only apply to the government. Besides the Feds have no constitutional authority to dictate a company's bathroom policies.
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By William Dykeman at our age there must be more to life than drugs, drugs for me were a youthful indisgression not a way of life there effect on mental and physical health is always deliterious
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By Vincent D'Emidio Mr. Dykeman, we have had this conversation on a number of occasions, so let's get it straight this time. I agree with you that drugs, and sex, and video games, and gambling should not be a way of life. And we are both libertarian on most Social Issues. But, we differ on our view of the usefulness, or the uselessness, of drugs and sex, etc. Perhaps it was due to different life experiences.

I may have been much younger in the 1970s, my formative years, but since those were my "formative years", most of my lifestyles and tastes come straight out of the 1960s and 70s. That means that they have been ingrained on me, and so they are part of my personality. Part of what makes me what I am comes from the occasional indulgence of those activities. No, I'm not gonna stop it.

Believe me, I talk about it more than I do it! But being very, VERY Libertarian in my attitudes, I cannot...I WILL NOT...put up with Prohibition. Period. And, I simply don't believe what you say are Reefer's negative effects.
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By William Dykeman drugs should be decriminalized not leglized my point being people need informatio to make inteligent choices
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By Vincent D'Emidio Yeah, I can dig where your comin' from. My friend thinks kinda like you...libertarian, but up to a point. He's much more sympathetic to Christians than I am. Perhaps one reason for this might be my self-control. I just have it, always have, always will. But some people do not, and they tend to mess things up in their life, when they indulge in activities that have negligible effects on me, or many others. Perhaps you are correct, because since we "are our brother's keeper", we have to set a good example.
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By William Dykeman drugs arent good for you neither is refined sugar or a double cheese burger, doesnt mean the government has a right to tell us what to eat or drink OR SMOKE
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By William Dykeman its all about control
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By Daria Christine Oh, this is bound to be entertaining; "Control"?

Of WHAT?
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By William Dykeman hey 1959 was a great year